Category: Marine Corps Stories
192nd 3rd Marine Div Birthday Dinner Menu
191st Birthday Cake at MCRD San Diego, 1966
hey Sgt Grit, here’s a picture of the birthday cake at MCRD San Diego, 1966. Happy Birthday to our family, to all our brothers and sisters, past, present, and those who yet dare to serve in our glorious United States Marine Corps.
Semper Fidelis,
Corporal Ted Picado 0311
Greg Wood Marine Vietnam Story
Dedicated to William Overton Winston, Cpl, USMC, who left the world on 8/1/1067
Good day. I am writing this horrible story at the request of my family, although I don’t know why people would want to read about 18-year old Marines 45 years ago running through 125 degree jungles stopping to shoot at someone every 70 yards, dodging bullets all the way. The family justifies it: they tell me it’s a legacy of some kind. Great amounts of death, blood, and trauma for 9 months, 2-3 times a week, around 80 firefights in 1966-67, Vietnam, USMC, WESPAC. Might have been 120 fights; who knows? Who cares.? Dead and wounded both sides everywhere. Penny a point, no one keeping score. I was a 105MM artillery Forward Observer, shooting the big bullets. What a legacy. This is a 2010 Christmas present to them. As a Grandpa (“Papa”), I have 4 sweet kids and 6 grandkids. I haven’t spoken to any of them much about that year I spent as an 18-year old Marine half a century ago. It was pretty rough, and I didn’t want them thinking of me as what “Papa” had become over that year. It wasn’t that I lied; I just chose not to speak the whole truth that much, or tell these stories. This will change that; can’t hide anymore. The only time I cried in the whole stupid war was when I lost count of how many men I had killed as a rifleman, then around 50 or so. I knew the Artillery count was larger, probably 400 or more, but that’s sort of indirect. I was surprised by the grunt work. Afterward, I kept on killing, but never started counting again. How can you lose count of the men you had personally killed? Unforgivable; and it haunts me to this day still. I never did catch up. There are other hauntings, too, as you shall soon see. Then, the Greg I had known as a kid was in the never-never land forevermore, in the either always, no one would ever recognize me, there would be no friends nor lovers, and so it would be such for eternity, doomed, and so it would be, malevolent in the end, as it was that year. The only thing I would ever hear would be gunfire, explosions and violence, and I would end my short life amidst this milieu. And so it was in fact; 50 years later I still live there occasionally, still. I was adrift, morally, forever. No one to blame but myself, I was the shooter with the hot hand. No one ever told me to stop firing, they needed me too badly. I was a volunteer and could have quit any day, but I enjoyed it and never wanted it to stop. I even enjoyed the weekly near-death close calls. Hello Satan. Mark Twain said “You go to Heaven for the Climate, you go to Hell for the Company.” See you soon, Mark. However, as it turned out I had a pretty good life after this, in spite of my darker thoughts. I prefer the legacy at the other end of the story. After an AK-47 punched two holes in you, one under the left nipple going in, and another going out the back; without much blood or hollering, you go quiet pretty quickly. Shock sets in fast, especially with only one lung left. After five months, I recovered, went back to full Marine Corps duty, push-ups and runs, and was discharged (with medals), got out of the Corps and graduated two colleges with a BA and a Masters in business, worked for Merrill Lynch 5 years and was a real estate broker and developer for 15 more years. I married two women, had 4 kids, two each, have 6 grandkids, and am now retired, fooling around with all the kids and grandkids. Now that’s a legacy! Back to Vietnam: There are two stories: 1) The Big Picture; and 2) The Little Photographs. We’ll see how this works out.Marine Corps Birthday Ball Speech Given by Craig Roberts
Are we smarter than that?
After forty somethin' years it finally occured to me I should be insulted. We all should. Well, most of us anyway. One crisp morning outside of Chu Lai I had the duty of retrieving the Claymores that had been set out the evening before. This being accomplished I came back through the wire, plopped down, and started to heat some water in my canteen cup for coffee. In the few moments it took for the water to heat (C-4 can heat it up really quick) I started fiddling with a Claymore in my lap, trying to see how it was put together and how easy it would be to take apart. A little tentative prying with my C rat can opener and off came the back of it, exposing the pure smooth white of the C-4 layer, all except for a piece of paper, which covered about half the area of the explosive. On this paper it said in large print "DO NOT EAT!" At the time I thought it was silly, but only last week did I sit up in bed and say HEY! Did they really think we were that stupid?!" My wife had no idea what I was blathering about, but ever since I've been asking myself that same question. Did the Army have that on the back of their Claymores too? Maybe it was just for them? Whatever. I'm still wondering. Semper Fidelis, Joe Holt 2158867
The Camp Pendleton Brig 1968-69
I joined the Marine Corps to be working on jets in 1965 for boot camp at San Diego, Edson Range, ITR Camp Pendleton, 1965-66 NAS Memphis Tenn. Aviation Jet metalsmith school, 1966 2nd MAW Cherry Pt. N.C., 1966-1968 1st Maw Danang So. Vietnam,1968 3rd MAW ElToro, Cal. All is normal up to this Point. Then we have a large spread in the Life Magazine on the atrosities of the Marine Corps Brig at Camp Penleton, Cal. If you were in the corps at this time you knew that most of the guys in the brig for U.A. or A.W.O.L. or whatever were there because they didn't want to go to vietnam and the guys guarding them had already been there and lost there friends. So they didn't put up with anything from the men in the cells in fact they beat the tar out of them for anything and they got reported for this. So the powers that were in the marine corps at the time decided that something had to be done. So if you were in the marine air wing, had been overseas, were e-4s and had a year to go or less of your enlistment you were put in the camp pendleton brig as chasers and overall runners of the place. The brig was to have a capacity of 350 prisoners. At one point while I was there we had over 1500 prisoners under lock and key. 2 of us got assigned to hard labor 350 prisoners which meant we marched them for a couple hours every day. After we got there our biggest question was why are we here, to which the captain conducting the meetings, said if you read you enlistment papers you would find that you can be a basic rifleman at any point while in the marines. But he said if you don't like it here you can reinlist for two years and get your pick of duty stations, which caught about 15 of us 384 airwingers, while the rest figured we already had our choice and were yanked out of it to be a basic rifleman, no thanks, we'll do our tour and go back to civilization. It was a very interesting time I wouldn't trade for anything. I was walking across the compound one afternoon when a colored gentleman in a Navy grey bus yelled to me and said "sir do you have a hole here for wrongdoers?" I said no we do not have a hole for wrongdoer's here. What are you here for. To which he answered "Icame back from overseas to find my wife in bed with a stranger, so I killed them both and then went over SanFran. and chained myself to a priest. I said "you probably won't be here very long and then will go to Portsmouth N.H. where they do have a hole for wrongdoers". He said "great that's what I'm looking for". Well he finally got to our area causing a lot of problems along the way. I was going across that same compound as the first time and he was back on that bus and he said " Thank you sir I'm going to Portsmouth" I said "good luck to you". At one point we swore there was a sadistic officer somewhere trying to do something to us chasers. We got most of our prisoners off Navy Grey buses dropping them off for us to prosecute. One week we got a bus load in and they happen to be all white deep south boys, georgia, alabama, louisiana, etc. The next week we got another bus load in and they were all black deep south boys. We had some times keeping them all separated from each other. I was about to go home on christmas leave 1968 when one of the white boys approached me and said they were going to have a todo that coming weekend. I said hold it, don't say anything more for I won't be here and I would have to report him if he said anything more. He said that's okay he understood and said no more. I reported our cinversation so our guys would know what to expect that weekend. After I got back from leave I learned what happened. Somehow the white boys got out of there compound and came over into the black boys hut and tried to distroy them. One of our own guards got up into the rafters and tried to take out one of the biggest black boys with a 2×4. But he just shook his head and looked around for who had hit him several times. and about this time a metal bunk end came flying up into the rafters where the guard was at and decided he'd better get down and out of there before he actually fell among the blacks in there area and knowing he wouldn't come out in very good shape. The last event was a black man chasing a white prisoner with a bunk end and putting the white man in the hospital. For several weeks after the event we were on pins and needles waiting for the next incident. Of course to help things along the next compound kept yelling over that the white man had died. For which the captain would come over the loud speaker saying that he had not died but was recovering nicely. One more thing back at the start of being here and asking the captain why we were here and getting our answer. We decided that if we were bad enough at doing our job they would send us back to where we had come from. They hadn"t had an escape from the brig in a lot of years. So we had 15 escapes the first week but then the captain came over the loud speaker for all to hear that the next prisoner escapeing that got killed by an airwing man, 2 of them in towers with machine guns, the airwing man got to go back to the airwing. Needless to say that was the end of the escapes and our plans were foiled again. So everything settled down. Then some of the guys got wind of a staff carrying arms inside the compound. We didn't want to get him in trouble so we confronted him and asked if he was and he said he was. We said what are you going to do if anything happens, shoot 5 of them and then one for yourself, before they rip you apart? No reply. But a week or so later he was in the mess hall when they started a riot and all the gates came crashing down and he got caught inside with hundreds of prisoners. He never drew his gun but he lost it totally and they sent him to the psych ward. Hopefully he's been out for years by now and doing okay. About february 1969 I got to go to San Diego State for transition to civilian life school and then back to the brig to become a sargeant E-5 and then checked out of the corps Thanks a million Marine Corps Sgt. Dan Rawstern
Some happening in the airwing at Danang
When I first got to vietnam, you grunts will not appreciate this story probably, we had cold water showers, Then the seabees came through and asked if we needed anything and we said hot showers. They said no problem we have a hot water heater we'll loan you till you get your regular hot water tank. We said okay and they brought us this 5000 gallon tank mounted on a trailer with a gas powered heater which made the water hot. You came to the shower with your towel and one of you went outside and started the hot water heater like a lawnmower with a rope start. From there you had three minutes to take your shower at a progressivly hotter till to hot of a shower and somebody went out and turned it off and then you could enjoy your shower for awhile. A real pain if by yourself. Another thing we had going for us at 1st MAW was on sundays we had steak and ice cream for lunch and a lot of you grunts came visiting about this time for some unknown reason. Most of the time we could spot you for the red clay dust still on your boots and you always had your mess kit with you. We would tap you on your shoulder and tell you to put your mess kit in the brush and pick it up after eating on your way home. Because we had plates and cups and silverware inside for you to use. Thanks to all of you who came to eat with us. Sincerly L/cpl Dan Rawstern
3 more airwing stories
All three of these happened between Nov. 1966 and June 1968 I was having enough fun to extend once. We had been at Danang for awhile when we got word that charley had a sniper at the end of the airstrip taking shots at our planes as they come and go with a rifle. We couldn't tell if he hit ours or not but the security M.P.s left him alone for a long time because none our units had much problem with him. We figured he had a very cushey job shooting at our planes but not hitting anything and we could hear his shots at night when it was real quiet. But it all came to a head with the new commander arriving from the states and hearing of this, can't hit a thing sniper, being allowed to stay. The new commander ordered his M.P.s to get the man out of there and they did very quickly but charley replaced him almost immediately. The new guy hit the first six planes to fly over that we knew of and we patched the planes. From then on the M.P.s kept the sniper out of the fly way. Another happening we had was our hangar shaking enough to lose a window every so often. The ground didn"t shake but the hangar did so we would step outside if we were working inside at the time. This went on for more than a week a time and then the first time it happened the stars and stripes came out and informed us the New Jersey was off shore firing sixteen inch diameter shells over us at targets inland. The next time it happened it went on that same amount of time. The stars and stripes came out a week later saying the Army had 16 inch gun implacements in place and firing across the valley from us. So each time we wondered what was causing the shaking only to find out in the stars and stripes a week later it was just us fighting a war. Thanks again L/cpl Dan Rawstern
procrastination of an airwing unit at Danang 1st MAW 1967
Well this story starts in early 1967. We are all working 12 hour shifts and we have metal corrigated 6/12 pitched roofs over wood and screen sided huts about 8' apart. We also have open sand bag bunker in between for the mortar attacks that happened every so often. We could tell when we were going to have an attack because the vietnamese barber was always gone the day of the night attack. They had been telling all of us to put roofs on our bunkers for awhile. Between all of us work was progressing slowly at best and non existant for some bunkers. The attack came late one night and one of the mortars made a direct hit on a bunker of 25 250 lb. bombs. We had been in our bunkers for some time when the hit came and we all watched this, at the time, neat mushroom cloud going up into the atmosphere, it felt like several minutes but was probally seconds, when the concusion blew through our huts and angled them away from the bomb dump at a 45 degree angle. Seconds later we here this rat a tat on our hut roofs and a lot of guys saying words and flying out of our bunkers to get under the angled eaves and out of the falling schrapnel. Quite a few of us got burned by the falling hot schrapnel from our own bombs but only 13 put in for medals for being wounded in a war zone out of 400. Not all got wounded but a lot more than 13 but could not see trying to explain how you got wounded without it being an out and out lie. Needless to say those same bunkers got roofs on them within the week and some were 2 to 3 ft high with old aircraft stripping metal in between the sand bag layers. They could have taken a direct hit and not bothered them or the guys inside. We may be slow at times but we got it done. Thanks again Cpl. Dan Rawstern