Memories and Memorabilia

Sgt. Grit,   I was assigned to Task Group 79.5, Special Landing Force "Bravo" in 1967-68 and served with a Marine contingent on board both the USS Tripoli LPH-10 and the USS Valley Forge LPH-8.  In addition to regular Admin duties, I was also responsible for writing the telegrams that went home to the families of Marines who had been killed or wounded.  Our ships generally carried a helicopter squadron and a BLT which deployed into various parts of the country for assorted operations.   While in-country, we steamed up and down the coast between Da Nang and the DMZ while launching operations.  It was particularly interesting to see the evolution of service rivalry change when operations went forward.  When I transferred from one ship leaving station to another coming on station, I could see the Navy rivalry bristle when the Marine air and ground forces came on board.  However, later on, when the birds launched with their squads of Grunts, it was the sailors on board who were assigned Litter Duty for the inevitable return of "Medivac Inbound" flights,… bringing the dead and wounded Marines back to the ship.  Litter Duty required the litter crew to enter the tail end of the landing CH-46's and bring the Marines on their stretchers from the aircraft to the flight deck elevator where they would go down to the hangar deck for triage… either for emergency care or to the fantail for that final respectful preparation in returning home.  It was a bloody and sobering task with high drama and frantic work on the Hangar Deck as heroic teams of Navy Doctors and medical staff struggled to save life and limbs.  It was the effect of this hand-in-glove function that quickly dissolved the rivalry and bonded the Navy-Marine Team into an attitude of support and mutual respect, if not brotherly affection.  As for me, every time a Medivac Inbound announcement was given over the Ship's PA system I knew that I would soon have a stack of SRBs and OQRs land on my desk,… each with a buckslip detailing the circumstance of the identified Marine.  My task was to open each service record and translate the pertinent details of that Marine's personal data along with the information on their wounds into a telegram that would go to their family.  Each service record opened directly to the photo and personal info of the affected Marine,…. including SGLI choices and so forth.  I was often surprised at the number of Marines who chose "No Coverage" even thought they had a wife and family at home.  I believe it was the self-comforting psychological act of saying, "If I choose "No coverage," I wouldn't be fair for me to get killed, so that's my best move."  Regrettably, this tactic failed with sad regularity.  This was a particularly emotional task for me as I realized that the families at home who were waiting and praying for their Marine to return home safely, would soon be receiving the message that I was preparing at that very moment.  Each book in the stack brought a new face, new information and new circumstances.  The messages were, by necessity, both blunt and curt.  A sample might read: "This is to inform you that Cpl.   John Doe was wounded (or killed) by enemy small arms fire (or mortar, etc) with wounds to his left leg (torso, neck etc.) during Operation Badger Tooth in Quang Nam Province, RVN.  Condition: (Critical, Serious, Fair or Good) / Prognosis: (Guarded, Critical, Serious, Fair or Good).  Sometimes the stack of service records was large,… sometimes small,… but always continual.  I served on active duty in 1965-69, but joined Mag-46 at MCAS El Toro in 1974 as a reserve MP and then changed over to Air Intelligence a few years later.   In January of 1991 I was activated and sent to Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm where I served in the G-2 under General Boomer before returning home in May of that year.  I am exceptionally happy to say, that the Desert Storm conflict was the mirror OPPOSITE of my Vietnam war experience.   I retired in 1994.   I managed to hang on to a variety of documents and photos during these many years and submit a few of them for review in the attachment.   Semper Fi,   Rodney D. Johnson MGYSGT, USMCR (ret)

4th reunion of Headquarters Company 9th Marine Regiment 3rd Marine Division RVN 65-69

Sgt. Grit,   Semper Fi and thank you for all that you do for Marines.  We have just returned from the 4th reunion of Headquarters Company 9th Marine Regiment 3rd Marine Division RVN 65-69 which was located in San Diego this year.  Thank you for the “gift package” that you donated for our “gathering”.   First on our agenda was a visit to San Diego Naval Medical Center to visit some of our recovering Marines and Corpsmen.  We were fortunate that our reunion kickoff coincided with a “fellowship supper” hosted by Soldiers’ Angels of San Diego (http://www.soldiersangels.org/); this is a group of volunteers whose stated mission is “May no soldier go unloved”.  They truly live up to their mission.  Besides the Soldiers’ Angels there were also many family members of our wounded warriors at this fellowship along with our group of 9th Marines.  Several of the wounded were with 3/5 which was scheduled to return from deployment the following day; these Marines were anxious to being reunited with their comrades.  The wounded marines assured us that they were receiving great medical attention and support from their family and community.  Without going into detail, these Marines and Corpsmen suffered serious injuries yet their “spirits” were awesome; it makes one proud to be a part of such an “uncommon brotherhood”.  This generation of Marines expressed their appreciation of support from our generation of Marines; “once a Marine, always a Marine”.  As we were leaving we meet a wounded Corpsman and his father at the elevators; I learned that this father had two other sons that were also Corpsmen; I told him he must have had great parenting skills to produce 3 Corpsmen.  Needles to say this type of visit will be a part of our future reunions.   We also toured MCRD San Diego as we had done MCRD Paris Island in 2009 and will have Quantico as our “rally point” in 2013.   Attached are two photos, one of HqCo 9th Marines on the “yellow footprints” and the other was taken while on a dinner cruise in San Diego Harbor.  The pretty lady in the second photo was a complete stranger that was coached away from her date so she could have her picture taken with some Marines.

5 Pictures for You

There has been some letters about the Hawk Missiles.   Here's some pictures of USMC missile's  before the Hawks   Pictures of the 1st Medium Anti Aircraft Missile Battalion.   A missile being fired at Twentynine Palms, Ca. An M8 Tracked Cargo Vehicle TMC  (Twin Missile Carrier) Terrier Missile Launcher Missiles being loaded  on a launcher     L/Cpl Dawson 1831129 USMC 58 – 64

MCRD San Diego Quonset Huts

Sgt. Robert Treitler’s response [American Courage #238] to Sgt. Robert D. Gordon’s pictures of the San Diego Quonset Huts stirred up old memories of my days in Boot Camp at MCRD San Diego.  I was the Guide for Platoon 3013 (and still have the arm band) that began training just a few days after the Marine Corps birthday in November 1958 and graduated in February 1959.  At that time there were black metal stoves in the huts, but they were NEVER permitted to be used for heating.  In fact, they were polished inside and out, but we did not know that at first.  Early on in our training, one unfortunate and misguide recruit decided to sneak a smoke while on fire watch.  The next morning, one of our junior drill instructors Acting Sgt. Dan Hudson (for some reason not pictured in our ‘graduation’ book) immediately detected the odor of cigarette smoke and shortly thereafter discovered a cigarette butt that the unwitting recruit had stubbed out in the stove during the night.  That’s when we learned that the insides of the stoves were spotless.  Within a matter of minutes, the recruit was identified and he confessed to his misdeed.  He left our platoon that morning and we never saw him again.  The scuttlebutt was that he received a general discharge as unfit for military duty.  For those who might not know, smoking was permitted in the recruit training area only when the smoking lamp was (rarely) lit, so it was very easy to detect the odor of a cigarette during most hours of the day or night.   We also polished the concrete floors of our huts.  Although I was not aware of any recruit that had a cigarette lighter in his possession, each recruit was expected (required) to purchase a can of lighter fluid.  We used lighter fluid and tee shirts to polish the floors until they shined.  In the case of our platoon, I think there was virtually no possibility to sleep with any clothes on other than tee shirts and skivvies because we stood before our racks in tee shirts and skivvies before being given the order to hit the sack.  It was indeed cold.  The morning air was often filled with the sounds of recruits coughing up the phlegm that accumulated during the night.  The salt air did not seem to help a bit.  It was even worse at Camp Matthews where we had a light snowfall on New Year’s Day 1959 and it was cold enough that Field Jackets with Liners were barely adequate for many of us.   Our Senior Drill Instructor was Acting S/Sgt. Bennie L. Knott.  I don’t recall ever seeing another Marine that I thought was more ‘squared away’ than him.  Fairly early during training we went on an extended Sunday-morning run (we were told it was approximately five-miles, but I don’t know if that was accurate) shortly after breakfast as punishment for some transgression real or imagined.  S/Sgt. Knott ran backwards much of the time while watching over his flock and exhorting those who were lagging to keep up the pace.  Several members of the platoon had to be assisted by other recruits, but we all finished the run although many of us had to throw up along the way.  During our run, we passed by a Navy recruit training area and S/Sgt. Knott gave us the ‘eyes right’ command so that we could look through the chain link fence and watch the swabbies as they lolled about enjoying the Sunday morning as though they were on a picnic.  He had a few choice words for the benefit of anyone within hearing distance; I think a couple of the words might have rhymed with ‘runts’ or ‘wussies’.   Our other Junior Drill Instructor was Acting Sgt. Lopez.  He was by far the shortest of the three Drill Instructors and some of us reckoned that he suffered from a ‘Napoleon’ complex as he sure liked to concentrate his attention on some of the larger recruits.  One of the tallest recruits in our platoon was a seemingly tough kid from St. Louis.  He was even tougher when he graduated.  He certainly proved that he could take a punch in the solar plexus and keep on going.   I don’t think it would serve any useful purpose to go into too much detail, but I can definitely affirm that the drownings and subsequent changes that took place at Parris Island notwithstanding, physical contact was used for disciplinary purposes at MCRD San Diego on an as-needed basis.  There were a few recruits who certainly ‘needed’ it from time to time.  S/Sgt. Knott informed us that he himself was a Parris Island graduate and assured us that he would see to it personally that the quality of our training would not be adversely affected by what was going on in South Carolina (which happened to be his home state).  He said that there were no groups of mothers that would be monitoring our training.   On one occasion, a setback recruit joined our platoon.  Judging from his actions, he must have thought that he was a real old salt.  On the very evening that he joined us, our Drill Instructor ordered all members of the platoon (roughly 80 of us housed in three huts) to do pushups.  We were already stripped to our tee shirts and skivvies preparatory to hitting the rack, so we were ordered to do the pushups in our huts.  Our newly joined ‘salt’ decided that he need not join in the exercise.  Unbeknownst to him, there were several tiny pinholes located in various areas of the huts so that the Drill Instructors could peep in and see what was going on.  Upon discovery that our new arrival had elected to ignore the order to do pushups, the Drill Instructor on duty burst through the hatch, grabbed hold of the ‘salt’ and taught him a lesson that I doubt he ever forgot.  In the process, some of the hardboard sheathing that lined the hut was cracked.  To the best of my knowledge, every other recruit in the hut, including me, thought that the drubbing was well-justified.   Our Third Battalion series began training during a time of major transition.  When we first began training, the old 13-man squad LPM was in effect.  Very early in our training we had to switch to a new LPM and 8-man squads.  If there was any confusion on the part of the Drill Instructors, I was not aware of it.  At the same time, a new rank structure was being implemented.  Instead of progressing from Pfc. to Cpl. the rank Lance Corporal was reintroduced and assigned pay grade E-3.  NCOs retained their rank but had to add ‘Acting’ to the rank (e.g., S/Sgt. became Acting S/Sgt.).  There was a time requirement such that any NCO who did not get promoted by a deadline date had to drop the Acting moniker and take on the rank of the pay grade.  Thus, for example, an Acting Cpl. E-3 who did not get promoted to Cpl. E-4 by the deadline became a Lance Corporal E-3.   For me, Boot Camp was overall a very positive experience.  As I mentioned earlier, Act. S/Sgt. Knott, a black man, was from South Carolina.  I was a white boy from Georgia who happened to be living in Montana at the time I joined up which is how I ended up in San Diego rather than Parris Island.  There was one other southern white boy in our platoon who also happened to be from Georgia but living west of the Mississippi at the time of his enlistment.  I confess that I had some concerns as to whether that might be problematic for us.  My concerns were unjustified, so much so that, in my opinion, the three-month period spent in Boot Camp was perhaps the most ‘colorblind’ period I experienced during my four-year tour of duty.   It was thanks to Act. S/Sgt. Knott that I had the good fortune to graduate as Platoon Honorman, Series Honorman and Blues Award.  This was all the more surprising to me because I f****d up seriously on the first inspection after I was appointed Guide.  The inspecting officer asked me what were the duties of the Guide and I mentioned some of the things I was actually doing.  Afterward, Acting S/Sgt Knott saw to it that I knew the ‘official’ duties of the Guide.  He pointed out that, whenever queried, the proper response was: ‘Sir!  The duties of the Guide are to maintain the direction and cadence of march.’  That was so burned into my consciousness that I have never forgotten it.    Use as little or as much of this email as you find appropriate.  It was sort of fun sitting down and recalling these memories from more than a half-century ago.  Although I have tried to report accurately on my Boot Camp experience, I cannot deny that the passage of 50+ years might have contributed to a slight lack of clarity on some points and stand ready to be corrected if any of your readers are so inclined.   I have included a copy of one page from the book (now falling apart) we received upon graduation from Boot Camp chronicling our experiences as recruits.   Semper Fi,   Cpl. Michael R. Slater 1958-1962

My old Liberty Cards

Here's a picture of one of my old Liberty Cards from Jan. 1956.  I see it is not the oldest, but perhaps close to being there. I was T.A.D. to NAS North Island for joint exercises with 3rd M.A.W.   (See Newspaper clipping)   Not sure if it meets your criteria for Posting to Newsletter but you can place it in your archives for posterity if you wish.    Joe Miller , Cpl, 1482458, USMC

Camp Hague, Okinawa

Sgt. Grit….   Regarding Paul Lindner's post of his time at Camp Hague Okinawa in the April News letter. I was at Camp Hague from February 1960 to June 1961 with M-4-12. He has a very good memory, as it rekindled my time there just as he stated. I also remember the Drumming out Ceremony, (if you want to call it a Ceremony) very disheartening to see for me anyway. I have enclosed a picture of the 4th Battalion Mess hall sent to me by Tom Loch who served with me.   Semper Fidelis Jim Scott, Cpl. 59-63